John 15

31 min readMar 23, 2021

JOHN 15

John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

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John 15 Video”s-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mgbmmio0e2wibgx/8-30-16%20John%2015.mp4?dl=0

https://1drv.ms/v/s!Aocp2PkNEAGMhzFt3zQtiVNl3W26

https://youtu.be/fYld3Wm4elE

https://ccoutreach87.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/8-30-16-john-15.zip

ON VIDEO-

.Longest last supper discourse
.True Vine
.Branches cut- pruned
.Sympathy for the devil?
.Cards in a deck
.Most high
.Suicides in the bible
.King Ranch
.What is a valuable legacy?

You tube songs below-
https://youtu.be/vBecM3CQVD8 I mention this song on the video
https://youtu.be/H3By4DZyTNM I like this one too [sound of silence

TEACHING — [links- verses below]
Jesus teaches us that he is the TRUE VINE- God is the gardener- and we are the branches.
Warning-
Branches that do not bear fruit get cut off.
The ones that produce fruit get pruned.
Ok- in the history of the church- some Christians believe that ‘believers’ can get cut off [lose their salvation].
Others don’t.
My purpose in covering this chapter is to show you that good Christians do disagree on this- and they are all Christians.
Now- what does it mean?
I’ll give you my view.
Remember- John’s gospel is unique in many ways.
One way is he gives us the longest discourse of Jesus which seems to have taken place at the last Supper.
We read about the meal in chapter 13- and if you read the beginning of chapter 18- it seems as if all this instruction was in the upper room.
Even the great prayer of Jesus recorded in Chapter 17.
So- here’s context.
Judas was no longer at the table- he went out already.
As far as we know- the only disciple that knew Judas was getting ‘cut off’ was John.
But they all knew that one OF THEM was going to betray Jesus.
This was tough stuff.
Jesus might have been giving them some ‘reasons’ for this.
Meaning ‘ok- Judas was part of the group [branch] and some tough stuff is still to come- remember- those who do not produce fruit [as Judas] will get cut off’.
‘What about us Jesus- the good guys’?
Ok- you guys get pruned- because that’s the process.
See?
Now- this obviously extends to all of us- Jesus was teaching the church- but maybe this will help us see a little better.
We have a peculiar insight from John’s gospel- because out of the other 3 gospel writers- only John wrote 3 teaching epistles [1–2–3 John].
Peter wrote 2 letters [1–2 Peter].
But he didn’t write a gospel [there is a gnostic one- but most say it was a fake].
So- John talks about abiding in Christ in his letters- and also about sins that lead to death
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
1st Jn.
He says we should not pray for those who ‘sin unto death’.
Sounds harsh- but remember- John was at the table that day.
And Jesus taught his men that this betrayal was meant to be.
Peter also tells us there were some who were false preachers- yet- when they fall away-
It would have been better for them not to have known the way of truth- then after knowing it [like Judas] to then fall away.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
2nd Peter
Both Peter and John seem to say that these were never really true believers
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1st Jn. 2:19
And Judas did have a special place- yet we know he was not sincere from the start.
John also teaches us much about abiding [resting] in Christ- and warns us that if we don’t learn how to abide- then we will face shame.
The overall theme in the New Testament is there are indeed judgments for those who turn away.
Some might die psychically 1Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.
1Corinthians 5:2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
1Corinthians 5:3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
1Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
1Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Others might face a harsher sentence.
The reality of apostasy is indeed in the bible-
And whatever side you fall on [Arminian -From the preacher Jacob Arminius — Calvinist- Comes from John Calvin’s name] that warning remains clear.
Hold fast to the doctrine of Christ- walk in the Spirit- do not justify a sinful life.
And in the end- all will go well.

PAST POSTS- [Parts of my past posts that relate- verses below]

· JOHN 15 [Radio # 598] Jesus tells the disciples they are the branches, he is the vine. If they truncate themselves from him they will perish. In the world of ‘once saved always saved’ and ‘if you walk away you are lost’ a lot of these verses become arguing points. I believe the main context here is sort of like when I taught Hebrews [read chapter 6 of the commentary on this blog]. I see Jesus telling the disciples as a microcosm of the Nation of Israel ‘If you don’t continue in the Old Testament revelation of me as Messiah, then you will be cut off [AD 70] and be destroyed’. Basically Jesus telling Israel ‘you must remain in me [after all you have all come from me! John 1:1] if you want to be fruitful’. Jesus says ‘I want you to have full joy’ in the same context of bearing fruit. God designed all of us to be active participants in the spreading of his kingdom. In many modern scenarios you have the Pastors and staff finding fulfillment, but the average church attendee is simply a funder of the organization. They see everything thru this paradigm. ‘Give sacrificially, we can reach the world!’ It’s good to give sacrificially, but God wants all of us to ‘reach the world’ to be active participants in this thing. You can’t have ‘full joy’ unless you do the stuff! Jesus says ‘If I had not come and spoken unto them [religious leaders] they wouldn’t have known they were wrong’ also ‘if I had not done the works among them that no one else was doing’. Jesus reproved by word and deed. I find it funny how after preaching that you don’t need lots of money to reach the world for Christ, that preachers get really mad at this. Then when we do impact a large region [basically Texas, New York area and all the African preachers who have been reading/listening to us on the internet] with me paying for everything, that this really gets the ‘religious leaders’ mad. Don’t be mad, instill this same concept into your people and you will have a full reward. Tell them like Jesus told his disciples ‘go into the world, don’t think you need a lot of equipment for this, you are the equipment. No special appeals for funds, keep it simple’ [Message Bible] Jesus taught and lived contrary to the professional clergies agenda. They got mad! NOTE; Jesus says ‘ye are clean thru the word that I have spoken unto you’. As I was reading this chapter for a few days, getting ready to write on it. I usually get up early and pray ‘aggressively’ for a while before I write. Sometimes I just wait on the Lord and just listen [for about an hour] and hear what he is saying. All of these entries come from this ‘hearing’ time, not from much ‘head knowledge’. As I was waiting the other day, the Lord spoke to me about this verse ‘ye are clean [set apart for my purpose] thru the word I speak to you, not thru what you speak [pray] to me’. I felt like the Lord was saying there are times in our lives where we simply receive and become the ‘incarnate’ purpose of God. That God desires to reveal himself to people thru us. The purpose of receiving his word is not for didactic teaching only, but for becoming what he says. Sort of like the imagery I taught in John 1 [go back and read it!] we in essence become what he is communicating. We don’t just ‘hear’ it, we experience it. Like the Prophets in the Old Testament, God would communicate thru them, but they also would go thru some strange stuff! Jesus also says ‘if you abide in me and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what you will and it will be done’. I want to credit the Word of Faith guys for bringing out truth in this area. They popularized the idea of knowing Gods will and purpose by knowing his word. His will is his word, if you will. The problem became an unbalanced teaching thru only seeing the ‘good stuff’ and avoiding the suffering verses. It would become next to impossible to correct these brothers as they went headlong down the path of materialism. Any attempt to reprove them would be seen as ‘don’t listen to the negative naysayer’ and they would develop a mindset that would not receive correction. In the reality of Gods will being his word, we must understand it is his whole word. Even the verses that give warnings about end time teachers who would stray from the faith by becoming money focused! [1st Timothy 6]. So lets give credit where it is due, but also stay on course.

John 1

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/01/john-1-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/01/21/john-1-text/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/ptqowadawxymizy4nn_aww

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-1

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-1

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-1

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-1-xzwgxey

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-1-cf3d6c5d2b8

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-1

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2554360/john-1

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/01/21/john-1/

John 2

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/01/john-2-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/01/26/john-2/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/fhhm_ng9cvebli5a0sqm2q

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-2

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-2

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-2

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-2-xlygqqx

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-2-1311ed4e4d00

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-2

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-2

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2568417/john-2

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/01/26/john-2-text/

John 3

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/01/john-3-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/01/28/john-3/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/ayjmi6rduouh3f2zwfj8ng

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-3

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-3

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-3

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-3-9bb1e898a262

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-3

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-3

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2574260/john-3

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/01/28/john-3/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/01/john-3.html

John 4

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/02/john-4-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/02/02/john-4-text/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/-nu1qw7ish_koyyz6vrfpq

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-4

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-4

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-4

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-4-xxwrjje

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-4-e8c371a34c6a

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-4

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-4

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2586389/john-4

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/02/02/john-4/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/02/john-4.html

John 5

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/02/john-5-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/02/04/john-5-4/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/hjkzjqgvshgvfmjuppoytg

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-5

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-5

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-5

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-5-xlyeqyk

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-5-45c7ef83542c

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-5

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-5

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2592388/john-5

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/02/04/john-5/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/02/john-5.html

John 6

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/02/john-6-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/02/09/john-6-5/

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-6

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-6

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-6

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-6-xkydqnz

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-6-98378c18b2cf

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-6

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-6

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2604025/john-6

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/02/09/john-6/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/02/john-6.html

John 7

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/02/john-7-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/02/11/john-7-5/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/2v86f28vtb2dbahqwajchg

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-7

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-7

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-7

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-7-xlyeomx

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-7-404b9479b7c1

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-7

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-7

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2609268/john-7

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/02/11/john-7/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/02/john-7.html

John 8

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/02/john-8-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/02/16/john-8-4/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/3gti2ph875rdrwa3qfsbtw

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-8

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-8

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-8

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-8-xkyrxgz

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-8-6be274461306

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-8

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-8

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2620615/john-8

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/02/16/john-8/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/02/john-8.html

John 9

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/02/john-9-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/02/18/john-9-3/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/hk23khciwgmzapwfugnlvq

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-9

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-9

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-9

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-9-xerzxze

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-9

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-9

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2625895/john-9

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/02/18/john-9/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/02/john-9.html

John 10

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/02/john-10-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/02/25/john-10-text/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/gzdoiew_hz_fgnv1hf1lkg

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-10

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-10

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-10

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-10-xykjwyv

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-10-324501e23c67

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-10

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2644866/john-10

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/02/25/john-10/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/02/john-10.html

John11

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/03/john-11-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/03/02/john-11-4/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/uwkb1wyo0-dys8ar2veeaa

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-11

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-11

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-11

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-11-xnqwdyq

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-11-c3334a524a7b

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-11

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-11

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2658431/john-11

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/03/02/john-11/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/03/john-11.html

John 12

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/03/john-12-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/03/09/john-12-text/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/jh3wvisdp2a5p9nvodpvgq

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-12

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-12

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-12

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-12-xykowdy

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-12-7aa2d7b549cd

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-12

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2677245/john-12

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/03/09/john-12/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/03/john-12.html

John 13

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/03/john-13-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/03/11/john-13-8/

https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/dqdhtqce14we1rcy9u5jyg

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-13

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-13

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-13

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-13-xdnllgq

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-13-3199f213c377

https://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/john-13

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-13

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2682731/john-13

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/03/11/john-13/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/03/john-13.html

John 14

https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2021/03/john-14-text.html?m=0

https://ccoutreach87.com/2021/03/18/john-14-10/

https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/john-14

https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/john-14

https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/john-14

https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/john-14-xnqpqgn

https://johnchiarello.medium.com/john-14-77dda7777fa4

https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/john-14

http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2703445/john-14

https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2021/03/18/john-14/

http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2021/03/john-14.html

I mention Corinthians on today’s video- here’s my study- https://ccoutreach87.wordpress.com/1st-2nd-corinthians/

The 6th session of Trent was the one where the church dealt with justification [how we become saved in Gods sight].

Rome made a distinction between mortal and Venial sin in the council- the church said that Baptism is the INSTRUMENTAL CAUSE of justification. Yet faith is the Root- Foundation and Initial act that justifies.

Rome also taught that Mortal sin kills the grace in the soul that brings justification- and when a person commits a mortal sin- they need the ‘2nd plank of justification’ in order to be brought back into a state of Grace.

This 2nd Plank is the Sacrament of Penance [confession]. Catholic Moral Theologians use an example to show the difference between Mortal and Venial sin.

Drinking- if you take a drink [alcohol] not a sin. If you get tipsy- Venial- and if you get flat drunk- mortal.

This is a true teaching by the way- not making this up.

Catholic scholars are not in total agreement on all the Mortal/Venial sins.

Some teach that missing Mass on Sunday is a Mortal sin.

I just threw this in to show you the debates that take place.

The teachings from Trent are referred to as Tridentine.

The Protestants [early on] rejected the belief that a person can lose Gods grace once he has it- later on the Protestants would divide- severely- over this teaching- Predestination and the Perseverance of the Saints.

But early on all the major Reformers did indeed teach this.

Luther believed in the doctrine of Predestination just as much- if not more- than John Calvin.

But sometimes in these history shows they get this wrong and say Luther and Calvin disagreed on it- that’s a common mistake that you hear every so often.

Luther actually wrote a book dedicated to the subject [The Bondage of the Will] Calvin never wrote a book solely on the subject.

Okay- as we end this brief study of the Protestant Reformation- you could also call it a primer on Catholic doctrine [short one].

Why is it important that we study this?

In John chapter 17 Jesus said that he desired unity for all of Gods people- and many of these divisions- which date back 500 years- are commonly misunderstood on both sides.

It is common in our day to run across an ex Catholic who might say ‘you know- I left the church because I don’t believe I need to confess to a priest’ or ‘the Catholic church teaches you are saved by works’.

The original Reformers did not have a problem with confession- the Lutherans carried the practice over into their communion.

And like I just showed you- the Catholic church rejected the doctrine of being saved ‘by works’ [Pelagianism] and simply emphasized the teaching found in the bible- the book of James- and focused more on James than Paul [who the protestants focus on].

So yes- there are still differences- but if we are not informed- then it makes it harder to strive for unity- and at the end of the day God does desire unity for all his people.

The other day I quoted the great Civil rights leader- MLK. In one of his famous speeches that’s played when we celebrate his life- you hear Martin say that not only was he seeking unity among the races- but also in the church.

He said he wanted to see Catholics and Protestants- as well as Blacks and Whites- sit down together- he referred to us all as Gods kids.

I think we should strive to achieve the desire of Martin- and Jesus.

Amen.
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1782- PROTESTANT REFORMATION CONCLUSION

Today let’s finish up the study on the Protestant Reformation. We left off on Luther disputing with the church over the doctrine of how a person becomes just in the sight of God- is it by works or faith?

Now- to the surprise of many Protestants [and Catholics!] both sides agreed that a person cannot be justified by works.

Yes- the Catholic Church rejected what was known as Pelagianism. In the early centuries of the church there was a Catholic priest- named Pelagius- who taught that people had the ability within themselves to obey Gods law and become saved that way.

He rejected the doctrine of original sin and another famous bishop- Saint Augustine- would refute Pelagius and teach salvation comes by the Grace of God. The official Catholic position was to reject Pelagius and accept Augustine.

Okay- then where’s the difference?

The church council that spells it out is the Council of Trent [named after the Italian city where the council took place in the 1500’s- Trento].

This council is often referred to as the Counter Reformation. The church rejected the Protestant line- but also acknowledged the need for reform and made some changes.

This is the council where the church rejects Pelagianism- and also says the position of Luther [Justification by Faith ALONE] was flawed.

The church appealed to the New Testament letter of Saint James- where James uses an example from the life of Abraham [found in Genesis 22] where Abraham obeys God and is willing to sacrifice his son Isaac on an altar.

Of course this never happens- God was simply testing Abraham- but James says this act of obedience justified him in Gods sight.

James says ‘see how a man is justified by works- and not by faith ALONE’.

The argument from Rome was Faith played THE major role in justification- but was not sufficient by itself- there had to be righteous works eventually associated with it in order for God to say ‘you are just’ [saved].

Luther disagreed and said God justified Abraham before he had good works- we find this in Genesis 15. God says to Abraham ‘look- count all the stars- so shall your offspring be’ and Walla- the bible also says Abraham was justified in God’s eyes the moment he believed the promise.

Who’s right?

Actually they both are.

I have taught this a few times over the years- and it would take too much time to re-do right now.

But I believe James and Paul [the 2 who debate this in the bible] are simply looking at different aspects of salvation/justification.

Paul emphasized faith- and James showed us how true faith always has works with it.

When you read the statements that came out from the council of Trent- some of them do seem to indicate that both sides might have been talking past each other at some points.

In the heat of the day they were too quick to condemn the other side- without really trying hard to achieve unity [like politics!].

The 6th session of Trent was the one where the church dealt with justification [how we become saved in Gods sight].

This 2nd Plank is the Sacrament of Penance [confession]. Catholic Moral Theologians use an example to show the difference between Mortal and Venial sin.

Drinking- if you take a drink [alcohol] not a sin. If you get tipsy- Venial- and if you get flat drunk- mortal.

This is a true teaching by the way- not making this up.

Catholic scholars are not in total agreement on all the Mortal/Venial sins.

Some teach that missing Mass on Sunday is a Mortal sin.

I just threw this in to show you the debates that take place.

The teachings from Trent are referred to as Tridentine.

But early on all the major Reformers did indeed teach this.

Luther believed in the doctrine of Predestination just as much- if not more- than John Calvin.

But sometimes in these history shows they get this wrong and say Luther and Calvin disagreed on it- that’s a common mistake that you hear every so often.

Luther actually wrote a book dedicated to the subject [The Bondage of the Will] Calvin never wrote a book solely on the subject.

Okay- as we end this brief study of the Protestant Reformation- you could also call it a primer on Catholic doctrine [short one].

Why is it important that we study this?

In John chapter 17 Jesus said that he desired unity for all of Gods people- and many of these divisions- which date back 500 years- are commonly misunderstood on both sides.

The original Reformers did not have a problem with confession- the Lutherans carried the practice over into their communion.

So yes- there are still differences- but if we are not informed- then it makes it harder to strive for unity- and at the end of the day God does desire unity for all his people.

He said he wanted to see Catholics and Protestants- as well as Blacks and Whites- sit down together- he referred to us all as Gods kids.

I think we should strive to achieve the desire of Martin- and Jesus.

Amen.

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NOTE 3- Augustine.

I personally am a fan of Saint Augustine. He is one of the famous church fathers of the early centuries.

In my view he holds a distinct place- he is admired by both staunch Protestants [Reformed Theologians]- and Catholics.

Why?

The original Protestant Reformation of the 16th century had 3 key figures.

Martin Luther [Germany]- Ulrich Zwingli [Swiss] and John Calvin [studied for the priesthood in Paris- later took a key role in Geneva Switzerland].

One of the key beliefs- of at least 2 of these 3- was the doctrine mentioned above- Predestination.

It is a common mistake in our day to see historical documentaries [I have seen some] that refer to Calvin as someone who believed in Predestination [true] and that Luther disagreed with him.

That’s wrong [but you have to study theology to find this out- a brief reading of church history does not show you this- that’s why some of the well meaning documentaries you might see on the History channel get this wrong].

Okay- Martin Luther was a Catholic Monk- under an order called the Augustinian order- named after St. Augustine.

See?

Even though he would break away from the church- and the Lutheran church would form- yet he held to the original belief that the founder/namesake of his order taught.

Now- you do indeed find many verses in the bible that speak about God choosing us- and not us ‘choosing him’.

Or chapters [Romans 9] that say Gods choice of us has nothing to do with our own goodness- but he chose us because he loved us.

So- this teaching does indeed have scriptural backing.

But- you also have scripture to back up the opposing view- which is referred to as Arminianism.

Named after another church leader- Jacob Arminius.

He held to the Calvinist view at first- but as he began studying- to defend this view- he came to the belief that this view [at least among its more radical adherents] was wrong.

These 2 groups- Calvinists- Armenians- became enemies as the Protestant Reformation grew.

The followers of men like John Wesley [founder of the Methodist church] disagreed strongly with those who held to the Calvinist view.

In our day- you still have adherents of both views- seeing the ‘other side’ as non Christian.

It’s sad- but this is just one- of thousands of teachings- that have had this effect.

The Catholic leaders warned of this at the time of the breakaway- which took place in the 16th century.

They feared that once you made a clean break from the historic church- that the ‘breaking’ would never stop.

As you look at the scene over the past 500 years- it’s hard to say they were wrong.

One last note- many modern Protestants do not hold Augustine- or any of the men mentioned above- in high regard at all.

Some hold to a belief [another popular one in groups that are Restorationist- as opposed to Reformist] that all of the early Christian expressions got off course [apostatized] and that the only ‘true’ church- just happens to be the group they are in.

Once again- this type of belief simply increases the division in the church- in my view.

Many reject men like Augustine- because of his influence by the Greek philosophers- they charge that some of the early church leaders were too much into philosophy.

For instance- one of the first Christian schools ever founded was in Alexandria- Egypt.

In the 2nd/3rd century Origen- an early church father- would take over the school and teach Christian theology.

But- the school was basically a school that first taught Greek philosophy.

Origen is respected by many [like me] but officially the church does not recognize him as a legitimate Church farther.

Why?

Because he did indeed hold to some views that were not Christian based- like the pre- existence of the soul.

This belief comes straight from Greek philosophy- not Christianity.

He also believed in what we refer to as Universalism- that at the end- everyone gets saved- even the Devil!

So- this debate has gone on for centuries- the debate over how ‘Platonic’ so and so is- or did men like Thomas Aquinas [ 13th century- another favorite of mine] simply mix Aristotelian thought [Aristotle] in with Christian teaching- and thus water down the true faith.

This is also the reason many [most] Protestants do not teach Philosophy- as a basic plank- in their seminaries.

I think this is a big mistake.

Philosophy- as a field- deals with the basic issues of life.

Why are we hear- what’s the purpose of mans existence- etc.

For the Protestant church to have basically abandoned this field- this left the secular world to shape it as they wish.

But- the Catholic Church has indeed engaged in this field- and in my view- has presented a better world view- than the secular philosophers.

Okay- now this post is becoming an entire study!

That’s it for now- I have lots of posts like this on the blog- if you want- just look them up there.
[The above comes from my study on the Protestant Reformation- here’s the complete study- https://ccoutreach87.wordpress.com/protestant-reformation-luther/ ]
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GW BRIDGE- https://youtu.be/70CVdZxFIMg GW bridge
ON VIDEO-
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.Why Bishops?
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.Restore the paths
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.Robert Moses to blame?
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.Suicide signs
.Apostolic succession
.What church is the ‘true church’?
.Most amazing intellectual discourse ever? Only if you don’t hear [have to watch to get it- sorry]
.Bedrock
.I am homeless- can you spare a 5?

NOTE- I made the video- and typed the notes sitting in my car at Hudson County Park [in the rain]
Ill upload tomorrow at Dunkin Donuts [or somewhere else].
What big financial budget was needed for this?
None.
One of the things I want my minister friends to see- is it’s not about money.
Sure- it would be easier to be at my home office- or even a home.
But you don’t need it- you can use the things that you have.
This has been one of my ‘pet peeves’ for many years.
I want you to see how simple all of this is- the friends you see [both in Texas and here] are just friends I made along the way.
The kingdom is about relationships- and sharing with one another- even Marie quoted Jesus- and as far as I know she’s not a Christian.
So- maybe this whole unplanned experience was God’s will.
To be honest- I never know- at least at the start.
Be spontaneous- I left Texas on Sunday- because I heard the song ‘Head East’ [or group?]
So yes- we all have limited time on the planet.
Don’t live ‘too safe’ or you won’t live- at all.
FRIDAY NIGHT- PARKING LOT-
https://youtu.be/UYOvIw6jhiI Friday night- parking lot
Just finished the GW bridge walk a few hours ago- and being it might be the last night sleeping in the car, I figured I’d do a video for a few minutes.
This will probably be the last time you’ll be able to see- real time- me living in the car like this.
But- like they say ‘you never know’.
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VERSES-
13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the LORD Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
Acts 19
15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
2nd Peter 2
The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness. Lk:11
And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. Rev. 14:15
Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word. Ps.103:20
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1st Jn. 2:22
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1st Jn. 4:3
30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Jn. 20
And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country. Lk. 4:23

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Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the scepter of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. Ps. 45:6
11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
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John 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
John 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
John 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
John 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
John 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
John 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
John 15:11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
John 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
John 15:17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
John 15:21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me.
John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.
John 15:23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
John 15:24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.
John 15:25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Notice all the ‘abide’ verses in John’s letter-
He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
1 John 2:10
He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
1 John 2:14
I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
1 John 2:17
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
1 John 2:24
Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
1 John 2:28
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
1 John 3:14
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
1 John 3:24
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
1st Jn
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
1stJn
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
2nd Peter
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. Jude.

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Youtube note- http://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/youtube-problems

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Note- I have many web sites- at times some question whether I’m a ‘bot’ because I do post a lot.

I am not a ‘bot’- I’m John- so please- if you are on the verge of deleting something- my contact email is ccoutreach87@gmail.com — contact me first- thank you- John

John 15

Written by John Chiarello

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